Micro-Interview Series

Episode
#03

Maximizing HubSpot for B2B Growth

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Kevin van Beers
HubSpot CRM Consultant
Conversion Crew

Introduction

With over a decade in the HubSpot ecosystem, Kevin specializes in CRM strategy, marketing automation, and process optimization. He’s helped startups to enterprises streamline their operations and drive measurable ROI.​

In this micro-interview, Kevin shares his insights on:

  • Common pitfalls in marketing automation
  • Achieving clarity in CRM setups
  • Automation tactics that consistently deliver results

If you're looking to get the most out of HubSpot and drive growth through your CRM system, Kevin's experience offers valuable guidance.

Let’s dive in!

What’s the most common mistake you see companies make when setting up marketing automation and how do you fix it?

Companies get starry-eyed over automation and think, “We’ll just drop in a few email sequences, trigger them on form submissions, and boom, leads galore!” The most common mistake? Automating chaos. If your initial data is messy, your lists are a junk drawer of unqualified contacts, and your segmentation is non-existent, all you’re doing is scaling dysfunction, faster.

The fix? I always say: Automate intention, not assumption. Start with clear lifecycle stages and clean, relevant data. Then build automation that supports real human behavior. Not what you hope people do. And for the love of HubSpot, name your workflows something better than “New Workflow 7 Final FINAL v2.”

Everyone wants “measurable ROI” but what does that actually look like in a well-built CRM setup?

“Measurable ROI” — It’s the unicorn everyone’s chasing, but in HubSpot, it’s less mythical than most think. In a well-built CRM, it looks like clarity. You can trace a closed deal all the way back to its first touch. Whether it was a blog post, a paid ad, or a networking event. You know how many leads converted to sales, how fast deals move through the pipeline, and which channels actually deserve your budget (spoiler: it’s usually not the one the CMO is emotionally attached to🤣).

Good CRM ROI is seeing one dashboard and confidently saying, “This is working, this isn’t, and here’s what we’ll do about it.” It’s marketing and sales singing the same song. Ideally not off-key. 🤣

You’ve worked across startups and enterprises. What’s one automation tactic that consistently drives results — no matter the company size?

Whether you’re a scrappy startup or a Fortune 500 giant with more silos than a cornfield, one automation tactic that always delivers is: a strong sequence tied to behavioral triggers.

Not just your run-of-the-mill drip campaign. I’m talking about a smart, behavior-based nurture that adapts to how people interact with your brand. Clicked a pricing link? Send a case study. Watched a webinar but didn’t schedule a demo? Fire off a “Still curious?” email with a Meeting link. This kind of personalization at scale makes your company feel like it’s paying attention, without needing a room full of BDRs.

It’s the digital equivalent of showing up to a party and someone actually remembering your name. It builds trust, accelerates sales, and works across every industry I’ve seen. And when done right, it’s like having a 24/7 salesperson who doesn’t sleep, eat, or ask for a raise.

Reflections

I’ll admit: I’ve been guilty of this myself. Excited about shiny workflows before fixing the basics.
The lesson that stuck with me is simple but powerful:

Clean data + clear lifecycle stages → then automation. Not the other way around.

Since adopting this mindset, my own CRM builds have become far easier to scale and actually deliver ROI.

If you’re setting up automation right now, pause and ask:
Am I automating intention or just scaling dysfunction?

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Kevin van Beers
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